Mike Augello
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.25.2006
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF Joined: 03.03.2016
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Hi SUCK IT EVERYONE WHO ISN’T THE GULL - Garnie
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TheMussel
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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- Steven_Seagull
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I do hope that Johnsson makes the team. It will be another feel good late round pick story. |
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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- TheMussel
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LeafGuy89
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Location: ON Joined: 05.13.2017
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I do hope that Johnsson makes the team. It will be another feel good late round pick story. - zazzle
He will, no question. Babs already speaks pretty highly of his work ethic.
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Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 06.01.2011
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So am I hearing this right...the Leafs now need Karlsson in order to compete with TB? Wasn't that was the JT signing was about? |
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Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 06.01.2011
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For the knobs (UG) suggesting Karlsson to the Leafs in exchage for Nylander +++
I hope you (UG) realize that statistically Karlsson is just a step above Gardiner. About 10 points more offence total with 17% more ice time. Perhaps worse in the defensive zone than Gardiner - and that's saying a lot.
Forget about the fact that Dubas is on record as saying the young core (of which Nylander is a part of) isn't going anywhere; if you were to trade him for a Dman it would make a hell of a lot more sense to trade him for a guy that knows how to play in his own zone.
And just to put a cherry on top of this incredible nonsense, I wonder what the cap situation will look like when you have 3 guys making $+10MM AAV and one other (Marner) close to it in a year. |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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420 ish yet? - zazzle
2 more mins
But I’m at the lake with the in laws - no 4:20 for me |
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For the knobs (UG) suggesting Karlsson to the Leafs in exchage for Nylander +++
I hope you (UG) realize that statistically Karlsson is just a step above Gardiner. About 10 points more offence total with 17% more ice time. Perhaps worse in the defensive zone than Gardiner - and that's saying a lot.
Forget about the fact that Dubas is on record as saying the young core (of which Nylander is a part of) isn't going anywhere; if you were to trade him for a Dman it would make a hell of a lot more sense to trade him for a guy that knows how to play in his own zone.
And just to put a cherry on top of this incredible nonsense, I wonder what the cap situation will look like when you have 3 guys making $+10MM AAV and one other (Marner) close to it in a year. - Pen15
are you really trying to compare gardiner to karlsson? |
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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For the knobs (UG) suggesting Karlsson to the Leafs in exchage for Nylander +++
I hope you (UG) realize that statistically Karlsson is just a step above Gardiner. About 10 points more offence total with 17% more ice time. Perhaps worse in the defensive zone than Gardiner - and that's saying a lot.
Forget about the fact that Dubas is on record as saying the young core (of which Nylander is a part of) isn't going anywhere; if you were to trade him for a Dman it would make a hell of a lot more sense to trade him for a guy that knows how to play in his own zone.
And just to put a cherry on top of this incredible nonsense, I wonder what the cap situation will look like when you have 3 guys making $+10MM AAV and one other (Marner) close to it in a year. - Pen15
I don’t think Jake is anywhere near EK but that’s just my opinion. |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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- Steven_Seagull
I waved at you earlier but you must not have noticed.
You were eating something on a rock in the middle of Charleston Lake.... |
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This team doesn't need to spend that money on EK and break up the core. Its nonsense. Ek is all offense and terrible in 5he defensive zone. If we were talking about a Doughty than yes. This nonsense that we cant compete with Tampa is laughable. Our offense alone will be a handful for anyone to match up against. We need some solid defensive D if anything. If it's not available wait until the deadline and see how this lineup looks to start the season. We cant have 4 or five guys all around a $10M average its nonsense |
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Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 06.01.2011
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are you really trying to compare gardiner to karlsson? - The Deal Man
Yes I am. In a world of stats, you can technically compare any two players.
Sometimes differences are vast, sometimes not so much. In this case, only 10pts separates Karlsson from Gardiner. All the while one saw 17% more ice time and was a -25. In terms of hits and shots they're virtually identical.
Use the emoticons all you like, numbers don't lie. Landing Karlsson will cost you (outside of the assets you'd have to trade), $10MM AAV for a delta of 10pts. You can try to position it with some bullsh!t "but I've seen him play and my perception is more accurate" but the numbers speak for themselves. |
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Pen15
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Joined: 06.01.2011
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I don’t think Jake is anywhere near EK but that’s just my opinion. - Garnie
You're entitled to your opinion, and I would agree with you if we're talking about Karlsson of 2014 or 2016, but the 2018 version is very ordinary as indicated by the results. |
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Yes I am. In a world of stats, you can technically compare any two players.
Sometimes differences are vast, sometimes not so much. In this case, only 10pts separates Karlsson from Gardiner. All the while one saw 17% more ice time and was a -25. In terms of hits and shots they're virtually identical.
Use the emoticons all you like, numbers don't lie. Landing Karlsson will cost you (outside of the assets you'd have to trade), $10MM AAV for a delta of 10pts. You can try to position it with some bullsh!t "but I've seen him play and my perception is more accurate" but the numbers speak for themselves. - Pen15
I have to agree with you. Hes much better than Gardner but not a necessity. Not at the $11M he will cost
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Pen15
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Joined: 06.01.2011
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This team doesn't need to spend that money on EK and break up the core. Its nonsense. Ek is all offense and terrible in 5he defensive zone. If we were talking about a Doughty than yes. This nonsense that we cant compete with Tampa is laughable. Our offense alone will be a handful for anyone to match up against. We need some solid defensive D if anything. If it's not available wait until the deadline and see how this lineup looks to start the season. We cant have 4 or five guys all around a $10M average its nonsense - matthewsscores
This!
I see guys batting around ideas on here all the time all the while ignoring simple dollars and cents. How many teams have 4 guys with $10MM AAVs in this league? That's a great recipe for disaster if you ask me. |
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Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 06.01.2011
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I have to agree with you. Hes much better than Gardner but not a necessity. Not at the $11M he will cost - matthewsscores
Bingo! |
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This!
I see guys batting around ideas on here all the time all the while ignoring simple dollars and cents. How many teams have 4 guys with $10MM AAVs in this league? That's a great recipe for disaster if you ask me. - Pen15
Ya not in a salary cap world. We should be very happy with the way this off season shaped up so far. When the leafs were able to buy a cup in the 90's we couldn't get a lineup even close to this. |
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Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 06.01.2011
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Ya not in a salary cap world. We should be very happy with the way this off season shaped up so far. When the leafs were able to buy a cup in the 90's we couldn't get a lineup even close to this. - matthewsscores
I grew up in Gilmour/Clark era. From my memory, I can't remember a free agent signing here while in their prime.
This team is going to be a force come October. They are very capable of competing against TB. |
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I grew up in Gilmour/Clark era. From my memory, I can't remember a free agent signing here while in their prime.
This team is going to be a force come October. They are very capable of competing against TB. - Pen15
Very capable. I'm confident we can beat Tampa as both lineups sit right now.
Also what makes me laugh is people saying we wont hst past the first round against Tampa. I have the leafs and Tampa finishing 1 and 2 in the East. I dont think the leafs will see Tampa in the first round anytime soon. Just my opinion |
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Yes I am. In a world of stats, you can technically compare any two players.
Sometimes differences are vast, sometimes not so much. In this case, only 10pts separates Karlsson from Gardiner. All the while one saw 17% more ice time and was a -25. In terms of hits and shots they're virtually identical.
Use the emoticons all you like, numbers don't lie. Landing Karlsson will cost you (outside of the assets you'd have to trade), $10MM AAV for a delta of 10pts. You can try to position it with some bullsh!t "but I've seen him play and my perception is more accurate" but the numbers speak for themselves. - Pen15
karlsson has been better in the stats department than gardiner for pretty much every season of his career. end of story. |
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